“Why don’t you upgrade to Unreal Engine 5?”



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Answering once and for all why chose to stay with Unreal Engine 4 and why have no plans to upgrade. In short, UE4 just works. All I hear about UE5 is new features I don’t want and complaints about performance.

Project Feline is a high-speed parkour action game with precise momentum-based movement and a 2000’s anime art style. Play as Gabi, a feline-human fugitive searching for her lost family. This documentary series explores my journey as an emerging indie game developer building my dream game from start to finish.

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Attributions

343 Industries; Splash Damage; Ruffian Games; Bungie; Saber Interactive — “Halo: The Master Chief Collection”
Crytek — “Crysis 3”
Halo Studios — “A New Dawn”: https://youtu.be/FDgR1FRJnF8
PlayStation — “Black Myth: Wukong – Final Trailer | PS5 Games”: https://youtu.be/pnSsgRJmsCc
Unreal Engine — “Unreal Engine 5 Revealed! | Next-Gen Real-Time Demo Running on PlayStation 5”: https://youtu.be/qC5KtatMcUw
Unreal Engine — “Unreal Engine 5.5 Feature Highlights”: https://youtu.be/cfoh5FHS5RA
Unreal Engine Issues — “Sphere traces where Start and End locations are the same are not triggering any hits”: https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-68641
Hassunami on Unreal Forums — “[4.22] “SphereTraceForObjects” node is not working anymore”: https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/4-22-spheretraceforobjects-node-is-not-working-anymore/446485
kilichamza77 on Unreal Forums — “UNREAL ENGINE 5.4 EXTREMELY BAD PERFORMANCE”: https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/unreal-engine-5-4-extremely-bad-performance/1821126

Featured fan artwork by Joker | Rusty

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42 comments

@RaymondCripps February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Wishlist Project Feline ► https://s.team/a/2214460
Oh man this doin numbers. Before you call the based department I gotta say I'm not a game industry authority, I haven't worked at Blizzard for 7 years or anything like that. I'm just a gamer who wants to make his own game. While making it I've learned there is more to game dev than what engine you use. My devlog series goes all the way back to when I only had the default UE template project. Check it out for the full backstory of how this game has come to be: https://youtu.be/playlist?list=PLwv43wkNGxP26aMPNSDfbLVO_Vcx7IFHy
@papichuckle February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Id tech still seems to be the best
@shw3ATay February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
First time seeing this game, looks absolutely amazing!
@els236 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Not sure why this randomly popped up on my feed, but speaking as a gamer, not a dev, as much as I am a sucker for the cutting-edge stuff, I'm far more interested in the game being good and having aesthetic cohesion.
@SlowMonoxide February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
All of this was on point, and I like what you're doing with the game; wishlisted
@kenshinhimura9387 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Unreal engine 4 is trash. I refuse to buy any new game that uses it. Unreal 5 is superior in every way. Unreal 4 has terrible stutter when traversing areas on the map. Also your anime character animations look like they are running at 15 fps. I think you should add way more animations and frames to those animations to make them smoother. It's very jarring to watch the character move at 15 fps while the environment is running at 60+fps
@pommy_the_mimic February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Is it just me, or does it feel like the input from the user always feels like it's not being handled correctly by Unreal Engine 4 and 5?

It always feels like I'm dealing with some kind of input lag or mouse acceleration. I just can't put my finger on it.
@Rad_Roxxi_Music February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
As a hobby dev, I've been sticking to UE4.27 for years and have no intention to switch to any version of UE5. From the little that I've used UE5, it's just slower and buggier with no actual payoff for developers like me. Why would i switch to what is essentially a worse version of what i'm already using?
@poofoo5471 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
I dig it, you wanna make it your way with the tools you choose. Idk why people are such sticklers over menial and trivial things.
@Poly_0000 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Your game doesn't need ue5. It looks sick the way it is.
@ahkoukyoussef February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
I like how you stick to your guns , please continue , I'll always be impressed with someone's unique vision on a game rather than just making risk-free choices that others made before.
@TheOpacue February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
I 100% agree! I also agree that UE5 is obviously really impressive, cool and awesome, but also gimmiky. Cause look, most of the best games ever made is 10+ or even 20+ years at this point, and it never was about the graphics. Sure, graphics helped, but if you don't have a great game to begind with, using a fancy engine won't help you anyways.
@DeikoMoon47 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Tbh, when Fortnite and a lot of games got updated on Unreal 5, all of games mess a lot with the graphics card from the people make it unplayable for others due to some bs
@mikejones774 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
This is the first video I’ve seen of you and I’m already excited for the game you’re making it look incredible definitely going to subscribe
@hillppari February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
unreal 5 games are sloppy pieces of shits that run at 23fps and look like vaseline
@Reihner78 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
I never understood the reasoning of switching engines when it would require a significant amount of rehauling previous work and additional setback in time that it would take. Anyhow, I can't believe that it's been 5 years since I last saw your few initial devblogs. Just wanted to let you know that the game looks sick as hell and you're doing great work!
@selwing666 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
randomy got your vod on my recommended, it looks awesome and the graphics you've is what i would consider "top par" it looks incredible and smooth!

and your character is gonna be pretty popular with artists when it's released :v i can already see it
@EyoWasTaken February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
PLEASE RELEASE A DEMO BRO I WANT TO TRY THIS GAME OUT EVEN IF ITS ONLY A MINUTE OF TIME I LOVE THESE TYPES OF GAMES
@worldhello1234 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
@6:58 Exactly, the graphics are not the game. Just like the paintbrush is not the artwork.
@madmanga64 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Thumbs up on the thumbnail alone 😂
@ErynnDBuck February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Listen to gamers when they all COLLECTIVELY GROAN when seeing UE5's logo. We know that means the game will look and run like shit.
@CrashHeadroom February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Alot of devs that are in companies like 343 do lack skill though (and the people who remastered halo 1 just as an example), it's why they have been hired in the first place. So you are right, no one should be relying on those crutches, but when you hire 10th place winners because they say YES to all the trash you give them to do? ..... ah well, screw it eh? you got a good game here ^^
@snowboundmage February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
I absolutely hate when im trying to turn off some shitty graphics presets, i search for an answer, and the first/highest rated response is always "why would you want to disable that?"
@MilkyHazard February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Your game looks really fun, but will the areas look like what we see in the video?
@matthew-005 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
You eant it to be your game nit the programs game Gabby looks amazing I am in love with the way she moves it's awesome.
@matthew-005 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Even if a silver bullet exists you can't have a full clip of them youbjave to chose when to chamber it.
@SashaAIex February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
I wish more people kept using Unreal 4 actually....
Look at Dead Island 2 and the newest game that uses it SoulMask.
Unreal 5 isn't needed and Unreal 4 can hit amazing graphics even without it and keep an amazing performance.
@themainman2827 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Where is Unreal Tournament 4?
@daniellindforsbernholm3682 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Since UE5 games started to hit the market, every single one I've tried have been unplayable on my Linux machine with an RTX2060 due to performance issues. Even games with less graphical fidelity than things I used to play running UE4. Don't know how it is for people running on Windows. Expecting things to be somewhat better there.
@AROAH February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
“This isn’t Epic’s fault.” No, I’d say that changing how the engine handles a configured number is down to Epic making a change without considering who it would affect.

Also, Unreal 5 appears to be an overall shitshow in terms of actually making new graphics features work in a performant way without tons of blurry ghosting, AI upscaling, or straight up frame drops.
@sailortwift1324 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
this game looks fun! nice job
@naggggg February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
A lot of people don't know the reality, and I find it frustrating that you have to explain this. People will use UE5 if they need to. If they need to!
@sloppy_jole February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
your game looks great btw
@lordterra1377 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
The tech doesnt matter. Good art and game design matters the most.
@dritzzka February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
For somereason youtube recommended me this.

That a interesting choice astetically for the character animations. It looks like rotoscoped sprite work while being 3D?

I can say it makes everything pop out a bit.
@espvolt4833 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
dude your game looks fucking sick man
@gabrielst527 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
There's not a single game in UE5 that had good performance, it has such a bad reputation that it actually makes me not want to play a game if I see that it's made on UE5
@Erikdevable February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
Honestly, your lookout sounds like the exact opposite of every node.js developer out there and I love you for it.
@Oblithian February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
General policy, don't update a work in progress (process). Upgrade at the start or not at all

And DEFINITELY don't burn through all the budget and then get distracted by a shiny new engine right before launch. Save it for a remaster.

But I do have do disagree on your impression of additional features. While true it may not make a game good in itself it can't make a good game great, or a meh game, 'worth it'. Quality of life features or significantly better visual features are additive to a project by improving the overall experience. Even if merely as a order qualifier for an ever growing number of users who have begun to expect it. But if you are doing it for sales alone, the forcasts better prove the new customers will offset the extra costs.
@skyknight0408 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
That's sound reasoning. You seem to be a developer with an actual vision for his game beyond "muh graphics". Graphics alone don't make a good game, as we can see with all the supposedly AAA slop that flopped over the last couple of years. Just use the tools that you're most familiar with and are the best for achieving what you want to do with your project! This is the first time I've heard about your game. Not sure if I'm interested in this kind of gameplay, but I do like the style it's done in. Am I right to assume you're a solo dev or leader of a small indie team?
Kinda jeallous that you're able to use UE at all. The best I can do is RPG Maker😉
@NekotTheBrave February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
I remember getting called out for using UE4.27 over UE5 at an in-person game jam, despite my reasoning being "I don't know if what I want to do works the way I think it should on the new version and I don't have time to learn if it should right this second"
@kephryccephryc863 February 3, 2025 - 11:14 pm
i still prefer unreal 4 then 5 5 only ups the specs neded for the game for no realy usfull grafic options

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