Why Creation Engine Isn’t Starfield’s Problem

Don't forget that people who critisize Bethesda are fans in the first place… I am and you probably are !

I loved Oblivion, Fallout 3 (New Veags I'm planing to play it), Skyrim and Fallout 4.
I tried Starfield for a few hours and I honestly didn't like it. (No I'm not a PS fanboy I'm a PC player and don't give a crap about consoles war)

When something is wrong we must speak out ! Their game design is the problem. A good engine or not won't fix things when you are the one who fucked up in a first place.

People forget that the problem with Creation Engine *is* Bethesda.
They're the only company still using that netImmerse/gamebryo derivative. They are solely responsible for supporting and upgrading it.
They just don't.

Creation Engine is the problem because it took all the dev time to update there for less to the game itself

you think the game was made to be fun to the casual player? lmao the casual player does not find this fun, and they are right

listening to this video as i'm playing skyrim & the differences are night and day. i've spent probable years of my life exploring skyrim, but starfield lost my interest by the second trailer i saw. why? because i don't want an endless game, i want a game that is fun without the need for endless shit/loot to keep you going – just good stories for good times. i'll keep re-playing skyrim until they get that for their next game.

The best summary is that Creation Engine is a simply a symptom.

of course not. ppl still play morrowind and skyrim all the time. however, it is a symptom of a company's steadfast and lazy system of iteration, a refusal to make things better. Bethesda's been resting on their Skyrim laurels for years now, and starfield is a showcase of all of that games worst flaws and it adds its own. Terrible writing, boring lore and worldbuilding, non-existent characterization (though thats always been a problem for them). The game sucks. The fact that the engine is like a prehistoric relic at this point is symptomatic of a gross, corporate malaise that you can feel oozing in your direction as you play this pos. It's also something you can easily point to as a problem, when the real issues are deeper and harder to suggest solutions for. HIRE SOME DECENT WRITERS TODD!

its both, while i can think of a work around to some of the limits workarounds they should have used cuz it would be better than nothing, the fact is this engine could never have truely seamless flight from place to place just a better fakeing of it than they do have, also if they cant get realism and good load times easiest solution ever STYLIZE IT! dont try to make it look real, realism is boring and overdone anyway (and so is that minimalist style ya know the one lol) but theres more than those 2 options,
all in all the best possible version would still be frustrating feeling like wow that was great but clearly held back by the software i wish it was made on something good LOL

why do they have a turbo option for the spaceship? and whats slowing the rocket down when you dont use turbo? air resistance? gravity?

I have been following BGS for ages now. Have you really tried all the mechanics of the game? Cuz I can show you things and you will say: can you do this in this game? In a nutshell, he wants Bethesda to do what every other game makes. The game has a diff design philosophy and it is ok not to like.

The whole concept of an open world in Space is insane. There was never going to be a way to get players immersed. It's a fundamentally misconception of storytelling. Universes that feel big feel that way because the characters and uniqueness of the settlements within them. Depth creates the illusion of width. If you spend several hours in one location and still have not gotten bored, then you hear there are 10 other unique locations. Then it's like "holy crap, this world is huge." But if you create a 100 locations with 1 hour of bland content, the world feels empty.

Sure the game is flawed but I love the game.

The main problem is Emil Pagliarulo, the lead writer for Bethesda.
He is a talentless hack who botches every game he's part of.

Lacking of effort is Bethesda biggest problem.

The engine is better than the past but it was never a huge direct issue to players

FYI lots of people do use their iPhone to control their butt plug.

I feel like Starfield's issues stem both from its design & its engine. They're both bad, and simply amplify each other.

For example, Starfield's dated engine could be overlooked if there were far less planets, and they were all smaller, hand crafted & more densely packed. If they went the extra mile to hide the loading screens with ship animations, most players wouldn't pick up on them too often. The planets being dense, small & hand crafted, would've allowed players to land their ships in a single location, and see plenty while exploring, instead of wandering aimlessly through baren wastelands that would've made Fallout 1 blush.

On the flip side, a solid, good engine, would've allowed players to manually fly their ships from planet to planet, as well as do atmospheric flights, making the large wastelands feel far more compact. Adding the ability for vehicles such as buggies, or rovers would've further improved upon it, making the entire game feel less….. padded?

Bethesda got reletively lucky with their older titles, such as Skyrim & Fallout 4, as the handcrafted, dense worlds they built in those games allowed the player to overlook the limitations of the engine they were designed in.

It's also pretty sad that the first way I described of improving Starfield would've just resulted in a game that already exists…. It's called The Outer Worlds.

It’s A problem

Not THE problem

We're all aware that Toddler the liar Howard is the actual problem.

Zaric zharkaron has a good video about this for the elder scrolls from way back. Times haven't changed