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Bibliography
This comic was a major inspiration for this video: http://the-toast.net/2013/08/05/a-cartoon-about-sports/
On why there arenât more women playing Melee: http://milktea-ssbm.tumblr.com/post/76970566292/why-awareness-in-the-super-smash-bros-melee
The Kotaku piece on competitive gaming: http://kotaku.com/5820907/the-10-best-moments-in-pro-gaming-history
Chris DeLeon on rules in sports vs. games: http://www.hobbygamedev.com/spx/games-are-artificial-videogames-are-not-games-have-rules-videogames-do-not/
Forrest Smithâs Smash charts: http://forrestthewoods.com/unbalanced-design-of-super-smash-brothers/
Daigo vs. Justin Wong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS5peqApgUA
The Smash Brothers documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSf2mgkRm7Q&list=PLoUHkRwnRH-IXbZfwlgiEN8eXmoj6DtKM
Quake speedrun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpiNDxssUL0
Half-Life 2 speedrun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV-AWxqYAgc
Siglemicâs Mario 64 speedruns: https://www.youtube.com/user/Siglemic/videos
aMSa vs. Mew2King at KoC4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDnKE5J7ki8
Axe vs. Silent Wolf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZIxUjct3uo
The year is 20XX, everyone plays Fox: http://killscreendaily.com/articles/20xx-or-limits-esports/
Chuck Klosterman on football and the read option: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=klosterman/091019
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just wait till this guy finds out about wizzy
I am still solidly in the yellow circle.
Returning here in the time of the Donkey Kong Renaissance
Almost 9 years later and this game has only gotten weirder. I haven't practiced it in years but man I love seeing how the game meta evolves, with Low Tiers rising up the ranks and more people trying out characters other than Fox. 20XX may have passed, but this game has a bright future ahead
What are your thoughts on rivals of aether and other non melee platform fighters?
6:08 The game doesn't "want" anything because it is not alive. Melee just respects and caters to every and each single animation the characters provide. These things are just simply "tricks".
Nintendo doesn't want to be releasing video games that are perfect enough to were they now last forever. They want to be releasing new games 'at all times' so the best strategy for that is to not make a video game too perfect, to were the players are now in love with it and will pass it down to generations and generations but also not too bad to were it can't keep up with the sales and users of now a days.
fun fact! wavedashing likely wasn't intended, but it was absolutely known about before the game's launch by HAL. Sakurai posted about it on a Japanese forum very early in the game's lifespan, explaining in detail how it worked. See AsumSaus's video about this, "Is Wavedashing a Glitch?". In another video, "Melee's "Glitches" (that aren't really glitches)", AsumSaus talks about some other "glitches" that were intended, like L-Cancelling aerials
Hello from the future. DK is following in Jigglypuff, Pikachu and Yoshis footprints.
Kof is better than SF in that regard xd
This video changed my life, this video introduced competitive smash to me. Since then the struggles I faced trying to get better taught me life lessons I will never be able to fully explain. From teaching me how to improve myself and not rely on talent (which I had none for smash). I have no idea where I would be. So thank you for making this video man. You changed my life. And Thank you to the lord for recommending it to me.
DK is beating top players and winning tournaments now. Melee is so fuckin good
crazy how much aMSaâs Yoshi has improved, bro went from camping like Samus to comboing like Fox, mad respect
to carry on the baseball metaphor; Fox is a power pitcher. So many guys throw 100mph now that it's not special anymore. Yes it's still really hard to hit, but when a good hitter does connect with a 100mph fastball, it gets annihilated. Occasionally you get a guy like Verlander who is throwing 102mph in the 8th inning on his 112th pitch of an outing, with flawless location. I guess that's Armada's Fox.
HBox's Puff would be more like Greg Maddux. Maddux didn't throw the hardest, didn't have the most break on his pitches, but mentality and punishing mistakes was *everything*, and he had probably the best control of any pitcher ever. Maddux would challenge hitters constantly. He'd generate weak contact, and the dude was a really good fielder, so anything back up the middle (usually the best case scenario for a ground ball), he covers when most pitchers wouldn't. As a hitter against Maddux, you cannot slack off, you cannot make mistakes, because he will punish you, and sometimes make you look really, really stupid. How many majors did Hbox win by being patient, having a good mentality, and punishing mistakes by opponents who got too greedy?
everything in every sport translates. Mentality is what won Jose Mourinho so many league titles in soccer, and patience and playing safe is how the Patriots won so many Superbowls. We can talk about Jorge Lorenzo's race management and consistency in MotoGP, or how the Tour de France allows many different disciplines of cycling (from sprinting, to time trial, to climbing, to descents) to thrive, and you don't win by being exceptional at one of them, you win by being pretty good at some of them. There's the debate as to whether competitions in skateboarding matter more than video parts, direct competition versus one-upmanship in creative works.
Sport is beautiful, and it's so intrinsically human. Leave a bunch of humans alone long enough, and they will come up with something approximating a competitive sport. I love this shit.
"Something the game can't stop you from doing" is something the Magic: the Gathering metagame became emergently contigent on that the designers have had no choice but adopting into the actual game design. Famous old legacy decks like Griselbrand, Dark Depths, dredge, even non-combo decks like abzan in 2017 standard and the extremely tight synergies in Delver of Secrets decks. This is our bread and butter.
This video came out the same year To Pimp a Butterfly did. Both masterpieces and perfect forms of art full of passion and love.
Diversity is overrated
You don't need to white knight for women either buddy
This video has aged phenomenally
Just watched a dk from upstate NY beat Cody Schwab.
one note, wavedashing is 100% on purpose
You're actually wrong about wavedashing being unintentional the developers obviously knew you can do that during development and the meant you too because it raises the skill ceiling
It's crazy looking back at this video every few years and considering all of the developments.
In 2019, Wizzrobe won the 1st Supermajor with Falcon since 2005.
And in 2022, aMSa actually won a Supermajor with Yoshi and has gone from the hero of 1 set in this video, to a straight up contender for the #1 spot. It's surreal, and watching this video reminds me JUST HOW SURREAL it is!
this video has aged intrestingly
Didn't realise this videos was 8 years old while watching it (and who knows why youtube recommended it all of a sudden), but a lot of what you seem to love about Melee was also true of the Marvel vs Capcom 3 scene. The game is relatively easy to understand, or at the very least it's big spectacle so it's nice to watch (I did play it so it's hard to tell objectively how welcoming it is for newcomers but I'm fairly confident it is easier than most), it has its heroes, its villains, the crazy innovators coming out of nowhere with low tier characters to beat the big favorites playing with the best characters (there is a great Papalobster video about the tournament Ageojoe won, that's possibly my favorite fighting game moments ever), the evolutions of meta…
One big difference this game (and all fighting games) have with Melee is that it goes through patches during its lifetime, so bugs are corrected and characters are buffed or nerfed. They also usually have a shorter life span than Melee (except Street Fighter 2 obviously, but Marvel vs Capcom 2 and 3 are at least still surviving too)
This video has aged absolutely beautifully
DAMN THIS VIDEO IS 8 YEARS OLD??? THIS WAS AMAZING THANK YOU SO MUCHHH
here from the future, amsa is crazy
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Perhaps the greatest Youtube video of all time.
had to laugh out loud at 16:14 when he said he practices shorthops. just practice wavedashs wtf. using the edge of the button to do a shorthop is corny and limiting also, everyone should really just learn how to get a shorthop from a normal button press
Yo mr innuendo studios if you see this do you still watch melee?
Beautiful video!
Hey man Iâm from the future your channel is not fun anymore đ
6:18 wavedash is intentional, its the way we use it that isnt
Why does this only have 10 likes
Coming back in 2023, it's crazy how much has changed, but it's also crazy that we're still playing this jank ass party game that's old enough to legally drink. There is truly nothing else quite like Melee.
Not to be that guy but at 6:10 wavedashing is actually intended kinda
Wow, I got into this game about the time this video came out but this is my first time watching it. Your takeaway about understanding why people like sports as someone who doesn't give a fuck about them is pretty much my exact story too. I didn't give a fuck, thought they were pretty much for jocks and meatheads (typical anti-sportsball nerd shit) but after getting into melee I suddenly found traditional sports much more interesting and got why people enjoyed them so much.
2023 amsa won big house baby!!!!
i think someone should shove this guy in a locker
Sports are very fun to watch. Different strokes. đ
I miss the old Mang0
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