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fantasy sports, card breaking are just another version of sports gambling…card breaking more so because there is absolutely no skills involved
Thank you and the printing companies and ones that own them tops and more companies making all the money poor people looking for that stupid bounty card😂😂😂😂 losers
You should take a few days off from ranting and railing against gambling, it's not good for your mental health. Non of the hobby gamblers are watching your content anyway, if they watch anything at all it will be pro-break 'positivity' to affirm their confirmation bias.
With the price of new hobby boxes being what they are these days it’s difficult for the smaller pack opening YouTube channels to justify staying solely within that niche. Initially the bigger channels might think “hey good for me” but channels opting out is not good. This doesn’t end well. For a hot minute I thought unlicensed would have a run however I second guessing that now. Like I said before, the “non value” cards are going to have to have some sort of special value beyond being a card to justify the expensive asking price or really the whole thing is kinda pointless.
We are all doomed! The light may not actually be at the end of the tunnel, just very sudden and ur toast. I am banking on living forever personally…
What is Topps?
I love the wheel game and basketball!
Awesome episode broski🤙🏽.
You spoke 100% truth.
Market is horrible
Great players sell shitty players don't. Ain't rocket science
I'm very new to this stuff, so maybe I don't correctly understand the economics of it all. But I'm going to go against the grain a bit and say that I actually LIKE the gambling–the gamblers and breakers end up being the bag-holders for those of us just buying the singles that we want at pennies on the sealed-wax-dollar. We also don't have to figure out what to do with the 99% chaff that you get from cracking open boxes. Gamblers: Get ON my lawn!
Preach brother preach. Keep it up.
Great video
I'm ok with it look that the lebron market stuff I could not afford a year ago is coming back for reasonable prices. Jordans as well I'd like to see some more jordan stuff back to the US to much nice stuff over seas right now.
Hunting some rare stuff and honestly lebron james is wide but jordans are starting to dry up or they are unreasonable
Buy vintage, bitcoin , silver and gold. Ultra modern is trash. Also buy 1984 Fleer V boxes. Remember we live on a Reptilian prison planet
I’ve been telling you for the longest, this hobby sucks!!!!
It’s all overpriced gambling.
Another honest great video I have been collecting on and off since I was 12 and I’m 50 now and I went back to collecting vintage. With all the scams and BS from these companies I don’t even want the new stuff anymore
I can also say those bounty cards topps can throw those bounty cards in the trash because the hobby was never about bounty cards its just another way for topps to make another money grab and sucker new collectors to think its the new era of collectin when its not
I feel like the CT scanning is still a really big issue in every single high-end box or set not enough talk about it. From sports through TCG doesn’t matter.
I have never bought into a break and never will
Dustin will start breakin' boxes next week hahaha jk
Great video. You are onto something special with the nostolgia aspect. I will never be the person who pulls the bounty card. I will be dipped in nostolgia when the 1959 Topps Hank Aaron I just won on Ebay arrives in my mailbox.
I got into collecting when I was a little girl starting off when my grandfather bought be a pack of 1997 Fleer Ultra Football cards. I switched to Pokémon at its heyday and then stopped. Started back in 2008 collecting baseball and sending out for TTM autographs then stopped again. Started collecting again loosely on 2017 and it got more serious in 2021. I’m older and make older people money but admit that I got (responsibility) carried away with buying boxes where I’m disappointed when I don’t get a big hit.
Recently I’ve told myself I’ll buy boxes of specific sets and only until I’m somewhat near a complete set. The rest of my purchases will be singles.
But watching your videos consistently has slowly helped to recalibrate myself into why I love the hobby and focus on what I want rather than the hype around the next shiny thing.
But if I’m totally honest, cards used to be a purely fun hobby for me but now, while still fun, are a way to give me sense of control in my collecting and organizing. Takes me away for my day job and helps to center myself after a long day. It’s getting a bit overwhelming though!
Anyways, great content and thanks for speaking to the collector community!
Great points brother ✊🏼🔥
Gambling for a useless prize smh. These chase cards will be worth $20 in 5 years.
LETS MAKE CARD COLLECTING GREAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
Im 52. I started collecting at the age of 3. I would get a pack of cards everyday since kindergarden to about 5th grade after school. My first job was 90. I would buy 5 boxes a week. Then the market became oversatured. How did the manufacturer fix ir? Everything became patches, game used and autos. The product is getting boring. It's the same stuff over and over, change the product name. Now I'm only buying pre 90. You can't blame the collectors. MLB tried to get the card market under control to limit product. Point the finger at the problem. The problem is the card companies. I get they need to show a profit. Profit over many products now. Packs use to cost 1:50 for 1989 upper deck baseball. Now a pack of cards is 3.50 and up. The problem is the shows. Look at these young collectors ( kids) today. They are walking around with thousands of dollars worth of cards. Kids doing several hundred dollar trades and selling cards. The internet helped the hobby. Now the hobby turned its back on the collector. It's all about the money. I REFUSE TO BUY MODERN CARDS. I only collect baseball now. I am the odd ball collector. I build master sets. Each of sets are in top loader and penny sleeves. Most collectors have no idea what a master set even is. This is sad.
Damnit Dustin Holler Sometime Ill Show Ya A Hell Of a Collection… and ALOT OF THINGS I KNOW YOU WOULD LOVE…. BET
Great Video totally agree.
As Long as Your Collection Doesn't Get Cherry Picked Then there's always light at the end of the tunnel.
look at Europe and Australia with gambling everywhere. do their economies look good? nope! thats where we are headed!
I buy hall of famers high profile players and when they die I sell most if not all of them example I have around 10 Reggie Jackson rc’s and when he passes I’ll sell them all and 3 weeks later I can buy one back sad but it’s what it is and keep a few gems for the kids Jordan Lebron and Brady rookie cards and some 50s baseball this new stuff is just a lottery ticket odds are you ain’t going to win but you might make a few dollars with the occasional 5 or 10x your “bet”
I think it’s crazy people dropping hundreds or thousands for Skenes and Elly player breaks hoping to hit an auto. 99 times out of hundred they are flushing $$$ down the drain.
I look at it this way i believe the hobby aint doomed what i do is buy graded psa and sgc of the players thats gonna have a great future and keep the cards out of the gamblers hands and keep the cards in my collection because the less cards thats out of the gamblers hands will be sought after and you can say that you have that card and it stays put in your collection
Great topic! The hardest thing though is how can somebody lend their personal hobby experience to another person? The joy of getting packs for me from 1971- 1978 couldn't be replicated. NEO explained how TCG cards though do not have this problem. There has to be some synthesis of these ideas for sports cards.
Spprrs card Dad is getting durrrtay
Time to move to pokemon. Pokemon can’t break their acl or have a terrible season.
Found an awesome 90’s basketball collectors group on Facebook and do all my card buying there. Completing sets that I liked as a kid and pulled a card or two from has been a blast. Might buy a retail box or two every couple months. Soccer and WNBA seem to have decent hits and aren’t as overproduced as the other sports so maybe they’ll have some value over time but I’m not too worried about it.
As someone who’s now 31 and collected since he was a kid, got into it because my dad collected since he was a kid in the 50s, I’m torn but skew optimistic. You have to find the silver lining. Do I think breaks and trophy hunting and the way people flip is good? Personally I’m over it. It peaked my interest but was simply a product of covid, influencers, and business. People like Logan Paul popularized selling cards and in a world of get rich quick fads/schemes the card industry is seeing that influence coupled with social media, and media consumption in general with TikTok, IG, YouTube, etc. here’s the thing. That doesn’t mean it’s bad. I don’t participate in that side of things. I collect for my PC. if I want to gamble and do that, there’s a space for it, but I can also completely ignore it. My concern is overproduction of cards for a second junk wax era type for value but also I balance value and personal value. You can choose what you want, how you build the collection, etc. and genuinely the hobby has exploded and gotten so much more notoriety that now I can find just about anything I want. I scour eBay and score awesome cards for great prices. I don’t have to go hunting for Wemby and Skenes,etc. if I buy packs and get em? That’s awesome. I probably flip em because I don’t personally care to collect them and that’s some nice extra cash. If not, I collect what cards I like and which sets. My only only gripe is the over the emphasis on refractors and parallels and everything being chromed out but there’s still regular style cards too. Thats my “old man” stance, I like the simpler designs from back in the day. Other than that, there shouldn’t be this doom and gloom scenario. Cards will still exist. Do I wish there was more parity than just Panini? Of course. I miss upper deck a lot but there’s still great stuff out there. I think if you take the silver lining of the exposure and addition of collectors for whatever their purpose, is only positive. The greed comes from the card manufacturers who know people are spending boat loads to get these cards so they overproduce content.
It's like the hobby is run by criminals.I see these breakers, one in particular, who hits all the best cards 9 out of 10 breaks he makes. Even the card shows prove that its all rigged.Tell me how do all these dealers have boxloads of all the best rookies??? I've bought hundreds of basketball packs this year, and I only have 5 Wembanyamas, then I go to a cardshow, and most every dealer there has a boxload of Wembies, 50 or more of all the popular brands. They just make it so obvious that they are either buying Wembies from the companies, or spending $100,000 buying packs.
The Sports Card Dad just keeps getting better!
Anyone that has been in the hobby since 2018 thinks the sky is falling. The market is 1000x better than it was in the late 90s and 2000s. Today you have some many ways to sell your cards while back then you had the local shop. Stop buying packs if you do not like the gambling aspect of the hobby (this has been around since the first inserts were added to packs). Go to bargain bins at shows or buy singles on the numerous sites so you can buy what you want. The hobby is what you want it to be for you.
It's always been a casino TBH, it's just a much bigger casino now.
It’s getting annoying you constantly complaining about the hobby
I think a lot of people are in credit card debt because of sports cards , but certainly won’t admit it. I’m a long time collector and even had to fix my spending a little. It’s a shame.
LMAO, dude get a new hobby because your Doom & Gloom crap is getting old. Just making shjt up and fantasy projecting just for YouTube videos. You're done son! 😂
I am 55 years old and have been COLLECTING since I am 4 when my father brought home my first pack of baseball cards. I have amassed a large vintage collection in all four major sports that I still love to just LOOK at. Do I hope it has value? Of course…it is in my will to go to my kids to sell someday. But I dont collect for that reason. I collect because I love getting an old card that I dont have to add to the ones I do!!!
Feels like I've been watching top signals for a couple years now. Feels like modern and ultra modern are being propped up so they can be used to extract exit liquidity lol
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