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Redefining Visual Line of Sight VLOS for Drones: How Tech is Changing the Rules

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With rapid advancements in drone technology, is it time to rethink Visual Line of Sight (VLOS) regulations? In this video – Redefining Visual Line of Sight VLOS for Drones: How Tech is Changing the Rules – we explore the impact of new tech on current VLOS requirements, from obstacle detection systems to AI-assisted navigation. Learn how these innovations are shaping the future of drone operations and why current VLOS rules may need a major update to keep pace with progress. Whether you’re a drone enthusiast or an industry professional, this discussion is crucial for understanding the next steps in drone regulation!
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40 comments

@xjet September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Recreational multirotor drone use has proven over more than a decade, to be the safest form of aviation... EVER despite what was, for many years, relatively light regulation. The fact is that our craft are intrinsically far safer than any manned aircraft and pose almost zero risk to manned aircraft therefore it's time we acknowledged that they are extremely over-regulated.

With a ZERO death-toll associated with the recreational use of multirotor drones, manned aviation can only aspire to come close to our record of safety yet we're constantly being told that WE are a danger to property, man and beast.

Regulators need to wake up to reality.
@stephenbromley2302 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Good job the CAA don’t control the the airspace in Ukraine
@PhantomandtheDrone September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
we are all thinking in terms of technology and other human made airspace users...but that isn't the full picture here. what about birds? when flying vlos you have a better chance of seeing a possible bird strike and trying to avoid it....we only have to lose one prop and its game over. How many of you would be willing to accept the risk? or be willing to pay the extra liability insurance?
@chrisregister8021 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
They need to just say that you can only go about a 1/2 a mile away. Because any further than that, you cannot be sure of the environment that you're interacting with. There was a drone hovering above a crash site that prevented the rescue chopper from landing. And that's the sort of thing that has to be prevented.
@user-vc8wu4do9t September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
I’m obviously misunderstanding this, I never heard the BVLOS mentioned. I don’t think Robert is talking about BVLOS. Maybe he should explain exactly how this heads up thing works. Also, you won’t see the drone coordinations as required by VLOS.
@conorstewart2214 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Hello Robert, would you mind doing a video on this military training operation that is making either a big warning or no fly zone right over the middle of Scotland for over two weeks please? I just noticed it on drone assist a few days ago and it is labelled as a large helicopter operation between 0 and 5000 ft with helicopters coming below 600 ft without lights. If you go on drone assist (and presumably other maps) you can’t miss it.
@conorstewart2214 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Even without head tracking you could make very good arguments about why flying BVLOS should be allowed but they don’t matter to the CAA. For example, if I am flying down a valley from a high vantage point, I may not be able to see the drone anymore, but I can see everything around the drone through the drones camera and with my own eyes or with a spotter I know roughly where the drone is and can be 100 % sure there are no aircraft anywhere near the drone because even though I can’t see the drone itself I can see the area the drone is in and could easily see any other aircraft both with my own eyes and with the drone camera.

Drones have long been passed the point where we need to physically see them to safely fly them, just being able to see that their are no aircraft in the area is enough now but the CAA haven’t changed the regulations to keep up with technology. At least with them granting permissions for some BVLOS flights for companies for inspections or similar that may eventually trickle down to us.
@ianjackson8643 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
A lot of conventional civil aviation aircraft don’t have a 360 degree field of view so why the requirement for drone to have if it was a a purely safety requirement then hardly any civilian planes will pass the requirement for flight regulations if you can try to visit a local airfield and film the field of view from a range of aircraft then try the same with a passenger aircraft the have a very limited field of view nowhere near the same as required for a drone theoretically the same regulation should apply to passenger planes as the risk of serious accidents occurring is much greater good luck flying to Spain on your holidays if your aircraft has to be in visual line of sight at all times
@CousinSchultz September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
The way the drone laws and regulations work in the USA - Whichever lobbyist, firm, or organization offers the largest set of kickback to legislators over the longest period of time determines future drone laws and regulations. ie: Skydio and the Chinese drone ban language found within both versions of the (currently proposed) 2025 NDAA.
@olsonspeed September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
A very rational argument to change the rules, unfortunately the widespread weaponizing of drones by the military will overshadow any recreational use.
@6panel300 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
The regulations need change with technolgy, as most of the regs are quite new because of the introduction of drones. So as the technology evolves so must the rules. It does puzzle me though that the FAA and CAA have almost exactly the same rules.
@marekdomanskimovies5392 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
ONE maximum of TWO serious accidents with drones and regulations will be even more tight. That's what I think.
@thezanzibarbarian5729 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Unfortunately technology and the law to not run hand in hand.
Cars, for instance, are way safer than they were even just 30 years ago. They have ABS and now stop so quickly, it's quite surprising. And a lot now have automatic braking systems for those times when something runs out in front of the car, that even the drivers cannot react in time to stop. But the car will.
But then a lot of these councils are now imposing flat 20 mph speed limits across towns and villages and in the UK. 🤔😲🤷‍♂
@Shteev91 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
The technology doesn't allow you to ha e a 360 view around the aircraft at all times, unlike your own eyes. Youd be whipping your head all over the place making the actual flight recording pointless if you were to constsntly be checking the surrou ding airspace.

Maybe a mandatory check every 30 seconds or somethi g would need to be put in place. Not practical though either.
@Society.x. September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
VLOS will remain & other laws & rules are due to be implemented due to the behaviour of a few.

VLOS is there for major safety reasons & will never be removed no matter how much you whinge. The CAA are holding the cards not a you tube channel
@jimmollison7608 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
You have a valid point. Unfortunately there are idiots that are irresponsible and screwed us.
@ChristiaanLowe September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Can't see it ever being safe, think about WW2 pilots in a dog fight, even they could get a surprise approaching aircraft, from above, below, behind. Even if you could look around, there is always going to be everywhere you're not looking that an aircraft can approach from. VLOS means you can see all around your drone, therfore never have a surprise aircraft approach causing an accident. It's about drone pilots with tiny drones keeping out the way of large aircraft to make it safe for them to carry on flying. If our drones were the size of a helicopter then approaching aircraft could avoid you, but they are flying dots to aircraft.
@SkyHighAerialDronePhotography September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Totally agree the Rules and regulations should be changed.
@graphguy September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
I suppose there are certain situation might have made sense in the past, but it has always been draconian in wide open spaces.
@liamprincetech September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
A couple of thoughts on this video (ahem)

You make some very interesting and insightful observations into the development of technology, including head tracking, all of which works...until it doesn't...

At the moment the technology is great but also fairly well known for not functioning 100% of the time. This requirement for high percentage reliability would probably be a high priority for the CAA or FAA to consider any kind of changes to their rules. AI technology is not nearly close enough to that level of "9's" (the number of 9's after 99.x%) of reliability (yet) to be a complete substitute for the human eyes and brain, but maybe a few years down the road we might get there. At the moment, the only way the CAA apparently believes we can minimise the risks in the way that VLOS attempts to (as close to 100% as possible) is to rely on human eyesight still. If that fails, you arguably shouldn't be in charge of a drone anyway, so I can see their point. If drone manufacturers can demonstrate, over time, that a system or systems developed to be more reliable that human eyesight and judgement in relation to managing risk and control in airspace work, then that changes things.

I do agree, though, that we are definitely at a stage of technological advancement with drones that it looks inevitable that once the (currently) newer technologies have had time to prove their continuous / long-term reliability and "bed in" to everyday use, the rules around VLOS will be changed or relaxed. I just don't think we're quite there yet in terms of track record.

The biggest challenge is going to be that being able to see the airspace around the drone when it is BVLOS in relation to the operator. In order for that to be allowed, I would imagine the CAA must be absolutely convinced that the transmission of that data between the drone and yourself, as well as the ability for the drone to continually and flawlessly collect, process and relay that data is highly likely to be unimpeded (again to a high degree of 9's) ... which with current technology (especially with data transmission methods) is still not guaranteed. Unfortunately our radio transmission spectrum is already crowded with signals competing for bandwidth as it is, especially within the areas used for drone operation currently (and this is only going to become more and more of an issue until someone develops a different way of transmitting data) so interference from that, but more so physical objects such as buildings/landscape etc, will always pose a significant challenge to providing that level of continuous reliability. Whilst the number of times signal loss occurs may be reduced with current tech, they're by no means completely eliminated. Being able to see the airspace around a drone BVLOS relies on that data being instantaneously available on a second by second basis and reliable.

Taking those factors into account, then, I'd wager the CAA will start by making it possible to fly BVLOS for a wider number of people with a slightly lower tiered extra level of training - e.g. a gradual relaxation of the current methods of gaining permission to fly BVLOS being filtered down to those who have the more modern drones with higher reliability providing they can pass a certain benchmark of competency perhaps slightly less exacting and enshrouded in red tape than currently exists. I imagine it will be years yet before the every day operator with a flyer ID and an Operator ID will be permitted to fly BVLOS on an open classification... but it will probably happen.

Lastly (nit-picking, maybe) the text from the thumbnail for this video "VLOS is no longer required" ... is not the truth in any form at all from the current legal system. "Is VLOS necessary any more?" would be closer.
@vince-n September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
How do you explain the solution to microlight, paraglider, police and ambulance heli pilots? This is why BVLOS requires a tighter control.
@philpayne5801 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Once the tech has advanced to the point where we can see all around the drone from the drones perspective then surely we would not have the VLOS restriction.
After looking at a lot of drone videos I would say that most, (not all) pilots have not adhered to the VLOS rule, some would argue that in order to make an aerial video, it could be planned and flown in stages from different vantage points, but then this would not create a seamless video.
I would agree with an earlier comment concerning braking distances and the advancement in technology with cars, let’s face it when the automobile was invented, you had to have a guy with a red flag walk in front of the vehicle.
But I digress, just a thought, would it be pilot error if a bird strike caused the drone to fall and cause injury to someone walking in the area ? How would VLOS stop that from happening? Keep the videos coming Robert old son
@davannaleah September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Most of the time, if you can't actually 'see' the drone but you know where it is. If you can 'see' that there is just open sky all around that area, I think you're pretty safe.
@nigeburt6040 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Hi ya great video i just got neo and not entirley sure how visual line of sight affects that ive got avata 2 n mini pro 4 so can use those remotes ive got the googles 3 n motion controller 3 but as its 135g drone do i really need a spotter i see other vids online n they are flying pretty much anywhere lol arnd people n allsorts great little drone ive not taken it outside yebut cant wait to do so. Its a great little all rounder it seems are u thinking of getting one
@BerserkSurvival September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
There will be no change, CAA doesnt trust any technology, you cant use a telescope, sunglasses or anything else (except prescriptions) to help your abillity to see. If they dont believe in sunglasses or telescopes which arent anything new, I dont see them trusting anything else.

I think we should appreciate that the UKs drone rules are quite friendly compared to a lot of Europe.
@johnburns5783 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Ach, the CAA are only allowing BVLOS if ye pay them a lot o money. I wonder how much these companies that are trialling delivery services etc, are paying them ? Money counts these days 😉😉
@flyingpinkpig September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
I can see where you're coming from Robert but the problem is if you give people an inch some will take a mile. A part of me feels the CAA should consider the advancement in drone technology and offer some slack re VLOS. But the other part feels that some will abuse that offer take advantage and fly that mile, literally!
@user-vc8wu4do9t September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
I’m chill. Only giving a view of my thoughts on VLOS
@gerardmcglinchey5779 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Your looking in great health Robert
@autisticdrone. September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
If VLOS was about safety, why are the police and possibly delivery companies exempt from these regulations and can go BVLOS ? , Maybe The CAA just want our money for the operator ID, which keeps going up in price each year, we are just cash cows. 👍
@user-vc8wu4do9t September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
You’re the one that’s wrong. You appear to be a contradictory person when it comes to CAA rules and regulations. Your flying in the Doon Valley, Irvine, Muirkirk etc in your videos, apparently cover some distance at times. One would question your VLOS. Knowing these areas are used for military low flying would suggest safety is in question without VLOS
@aloeisthestuff9622 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Silly Robert, The Gov taketh away. The Gov Never giveth back anything.
@user-vc8wu4do9t September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Totally disagree, VLOS is 100% for safety, your idea is not safe
@dogswhistlesharam9029 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Also With remote I.D. Surely other aircraft will also know where your drone is and would fly to avoid it?
And if all aircraft are not fitted with remote I.D. What’s the point of some countries requiring and enforcing it?
🤔🤔😳🤔
@thomastobin9602 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Robert wàtch all your videos.just to Say drone and controller on shelf in background light in background could cause fire due to heat from light just thinking of your safety
@johnbritton2746 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
When will you realise it's all about getting you out of the air space, it has nothing to do with safety
@TheCNCDen September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
TBH the weight at the lower end of the scale could do with an upgrade too, an extra 50g taking it to 299g for the entry level could make longer batteries and slightly more powerful motors possible, both very noticable in what has been a milder, windier summer!
@questionableabsanity September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
I think it will be a matter of qualification and certification. Being able to demonstrate that you have the piloting skills to fly FPV, and the knowledge to be able to assess/monitor your flight area, and in some cases limit your flight (below 20m for example) and/or inform other users of your activity (RF signal and/or inform local airspace controllers via a flight plan). I don't know! I'm just an abseiler!!!
@simonelliott5956 September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
Whilst I totally agree with you, take for instance the Highway Code. The information on braking distances has not changed since the days of Ford Anglias and cars with no ABS. So it’s going to be more about whether they want it to change rather than if it should given the advances in technology.
@petermainwaringsx September 11, 2024 - 1:33 pm
There has been a quantum jump in the technology we now have in drones compared to what we had just a few years ago, and those advances call for an update of the rules. Brief and to the point Robert.

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