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Indie music has slowly been losing more and more of its meaning and I’m here to yap about it
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I've thought about this a lot and I've finally come to the conclusion that we need to let go of the origin word "independent" and let "indie" be its own thing. This has happened to a lot of words in the history of the english language, and already to genre terms like "underground" and "alt" so it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Great video! I would love if you could please make a video on each song Elliott Smith wrote. Esp. Roman Candle.
A great example of indie and what is considered the first indie pop album is ram by Paul McCartney
How about road runner records they are big but not own by the big 4
I feel like alternative is probably a better lable. But indie rolls of the tongue easier so 🤷
I'm slightly confused why you solidified nirvana as "technically indie" because they started out genuinely indie but are saying it's weird that billie eilish is considered indie when she too started out genuinely indie. I would also say she's just as influential in respect to the current sound of indie-pop music, similar to how you said nirvana was for indie-rock
Whenever I focus on labels and names, I get sick and tired of music; somehow burnt out of vibrations. Can we just make shit without having a bullshit tribalist mindset. It's more about marketing anyway, but we've been brainwashed to use the same terminology that corporate higherupse use. Can't even say kill or mention death anymore. And we're being pussies, its our fault we've let ourselves get so fucked over.
From the UK here, I feel like indie really does depend on where you come from, indie is used to describe things like blur, kasabian, arctic monkeys, etc, a lot of Brit pop really, it's more a style rather than if they are attached to a major label, or maybe we're completely wrong 😂
Also judging from the comments – it's a confusing term. In the UK indie music is used to define a style/genre of Alt Rock Pop, It's generally very commercially successful and doesn't ness have much to do with who they signed to. However, in the US it is stuck between maybe meaning independent Artist, or niche, and being a sound (as you say in this vid). There are artists like the Smiths that seem to be niche-indie cool for the US, but always seemed odd to me, as they are just one of the big (older) bands over here.
I was once told that indie music which, I was listening to, was uncool because it was hippie music. That confused me because the music in question was fall out boy and I didn’t really see the connection to hippies…
A year later pitch perfect 3 came out and any thoughts of hippies or uncool were gone.
When i hear "i like indie" i just interpreted as "i listen to music i found on the Internet thats extremely popular with my demographic but doesn't air on the radio"
whenever i use the term indie, i do have a certain sound in mind. ig its stuff like clairo, fay webster, hippo campus, wallows, still woozy, declan mckenna just to name a few. these guys r very popular obv. its more of the vibe for me ig😭 but when ppl ask me what i like listening to i just say indie/alt rock and hope it makes sense. (ngl i would include tame impala in that category- but i dont think i even know the diff b/w alt and indie rock)
indie and alternative are 2 genres that are as much of umbrella terms as "rock and roll"
Indie rock has a certain style of guitar playing and equipment that is pretty common to it. In America that means a Fender Stratocaster or Telecaster guitar with fancy arpeggiated chords and simple solos and riffs. The sound is generally low gain or high gain as in grunge (an Indie genre). British Indie rock is totally different. Basically all modern rock has become Indie because rock is no longer the top genre and it's quite fragmented now.
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Indie Rock and Indie Pop haven't been used as a descriptor for Independent artists for a while. It's a genre name, a style, a sound, not an artist tag. Every single music genre that exists gets blurry very quickly, after all. It's mostly subjective and based on vibes and/or scenes.
Try to explain to me what mainstream pop is, because if you do, i can tell you a bunch of different artists/bands that wouldn't be considered pop who make music like this.
And also, you implied here that The Strokes, of all bands, aren't Indie? LMAO
Tell me if there's much difference in sound between the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and The Strokes. Or The White Stripes. They all worked within the Garage Rock Revival movement in the early 2000s. And the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and The White Stripes are absolutely independent bands!
When I tell people I listen to indie music, I basically mean just one music artist I listen is indie and it’s my favorite.
But my favorite indie artist is Good Kid
Nirvanas not indie
no, it isn't what lost its meaning. you just have to root through the fakers.
what a great video
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